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Spencer Pratt Thinks Heidi Would ‘Upstage’ the ‘Real Housewives’ Cast on September 16, 2023 at 3:01 am Us Weekly

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Spencer Pratt thinks Heidi Pratt’s reality TV background may be too much for the women of the Real Housewives. 

“She’d upstage. I know that’s my love for her, but I truly think she’d upstage all these basic ladies,” Spencer, 40, told The Hollywood Reporter in an interview published on Friday, September 15, adding that he’s “heard” people claim his wife is “too polarizing.”

Heidi, for her part, agreed when she was asked if she thought Andy Cohen was the reason for not being asked to join the cast. “I think so. He made a statement a while ago that he would never want me on it and that I wasn’t for their franchise, but I think that he’s so wrong,” she claimed, noting that it would “make sense” for her to be part of a show like The Real Housewives of Orange County or The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills now that she’s a mom of two.

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Referring to her longtime feud with former costar Lauren Conrad, she continued: “I don’t know if [Andy] is just a Lauren fan or what, because I would think that he would appreciate the reality star that I am.” 

Related: Celebs That Love ‘The Real Housewives’ Franchise

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Just like us! Many stars have opened up in the past about ending their day with a nice Real Housewives binge watch. But over the years, some celebrities have managed to take their love for the Bravo hit shows to the next level. Nicki Minaj managed to potentially score herself an invite to host the […]

Following the end of The Hills – which ran on MTV from 2006 to 2010 — both Spencer and Heidi have made a name for themselves in the reality TV landscape. After appearing on shows like Celebrity Big Brother, Celebrity Wife Swap and Marriage Boot Camp: Reality Stars 2, the pair returned for The Hills’ short-lived spinoff, The Hills: New Beginnings in 2019. 

Now, in addition to parenting their two sons, Gunner, 5, and Ryker, 23 months, the couple have one of their “biggest dream team projects in the works.”

“It’s an idea Heidi and I’ve been saying, I can’t believe no one’s come to us for 10 years to do. And then this big heavy-hitter came with that idea,” Spencer teased to THR. “So the paperwork’s just getting signed and if it goes through it would all come together just like a vision.”

While some reality TV stars are considering joining the ongoing Hollywood strikes, Spencer and Heidi have made it clear they aren’t on board. After Bethenny Frankel urged her fellow reality TV personalities to join her in fighting for fair pay alongside SAG-AFTRA and WGA earlier this summer, Spencer and Heidi clarified via social media that they will go “on any show” and networks can “treat us however you like.” 

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Related: ‘The Hills’ Original Cast: Where Are They Now?

When The Hills first debuted in May 2006, it looked a lot different than the revival, The Hills: New Beginnings. No matter what version they’re watching, fans are still hooked on the cast’s unwritten chapters. The MTV reality show, a spinoff of Laguna Beach, followed Lauren Conrad from Laguna to Los Angeles where she moved […]

Spencer clarified his thoughts on Friday, telling THR that he and Heidi “do support the WGA” but were “frustrated” when their name got “mixed up” with Frankel, 52.

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“[She] made people think there really was a reality strike,” he explained. “I was clowning when I jokingly said, ‘I’ve been on strike. That’s why you haven’t seen me.’ No, I don’t have a TV show. That’s why you haven’t seen me. But Heidi and I have learned this so many times, the amount of pilots we’ve shot with big production companies and big producers, and how many times those pilots never get to air, once you’ve been in that game and know how hard it is to be a reality TV person on a television show, until you’ve been on the other side, you don’t get what a privilege it is.”

The WGA (Writer’s Guild of America) and SAG-AFTRA (Screen Actors Guild – American Federation of Television and Radio Artists), who kicked off their strikes in May and July, respectively, are seeking similar new contracts with the AMPTP (Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers) in regards to wages, the use of artificial intelligence and streaming residuals. In July, Frankel weighed in on the situation and claimed she hasn’t seen “a single residual check” for reruns of her past reality TV appearances.

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Related: Relive the Biggest Reality TV Feuds

Ever since reality TV began, one of the biggest draws has been the drama — specifically, the fighting that breaks out while the cameras are rolling. Through the years — from Laguna Beach and The Hills to the Real Housewives and beyond, the claws come out when action is called. Although Lauren Conrad butted heads […]

“I’m well aware that unscripted talent aka ‘reality stars’ should have a union or simply be treated fairly and valued,” the Real Housewives of New York City alum said via TikTok video at the time. “The mentality that we were nobodies and that these streamers and networks have given us platforms and that we can capitalize on them is also moronic.”

Courtesy of Tibrina Hobson/Getty Images
Spencer Pratt thinks Heidi Pratt’s reality TV background may be too much for the women of the Real Housewives. 
“She’d upstage. I know that’s my love for her, but I truly think she’d upstage all these basic ladies,” Spencer, 40, told The Hollywood Reporter in an interview published on Friday, September 15, adding that he’s “heard” people claim his wife is “too polarizing.”
Heidi, for her part, agreed when she was asked if she thought Andy Cohen was the reason for not being asked to join the cast. “I think so. He made a statement a while ago that he would never want me on it and that I wasn’t for their franchise, but I think that he’s so wrong,” she claimed, noting that it would “make sense” for her to be part of a show like The Real Housewives of Orange County or The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills now that she’s a mom of two.
Referring to her longtime feud with former costar Lauren Conrad, she continued: “I don’t know if [Andy] is just a Lauren fan or what, because I would think that he would appreciate the reality star that I am.” 

Related: Celebs That Love ‘The Real Housewives’ Franchise

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Just like us! Many stars have opened up in the past about ending their day with a nice Real Housewives binge watch. But over the years, some celebrities have managed to take their love for the Bravo hit shows to the next level. Nicki Minaj managed to potentially score herself an invite to host the

Following the end of The Hills – which ran on MTV from 2006 to 2010 — both Spencer and Heidi have made a name for themselves in the reality TV landscape. After appearing on shows like Celebrity Big Brother, Celebrity Wife Swap and Marriage Boot Camp: Reality Stars 2, the pair returned for The Hills’ short-lived spinoff, The Hills: New Beginnings in 2019. 
Now, in addition to parenting their two sons, Gunner, 5, and Ryker, 23 months, the couple have one of their “biggest dream team projects in the works.”
“It’s an idea Heidi and I’ve been saying, I can’t believe no one’s come to us for 10 years to do. And then this big heavy-hitter came with that idea,” Spencer teased to THR. “So the paperwork’s just getting signed and if it goes through it would all come together just like a vision.”
While some reality TV stars are considering joining the ongoing Hollywood strikes, Spencer and Heidi have made it clear they aren’t on board. After Bethenny Frankel urged her fellow reality TV personalities to join her in fighting for fair pay alongside SAG-AFTRA and WGA earlier this summer, Spencer and Heidi clarified via social media that they will go “on any show” and networks can “treat us however you like.” 

Related: ‘The Hills’ Original Cast: Where Are They Now?

When The Hills first debuted in May 2006, it looked a lot different than the revival, The Hills: New Beginnings. No matter what version they’re watching, fans are still hooked on the cast’s unwritten chapters. The MTV reality show, a spinoff of Laguna Beach, followed Lauren Conrad from Laguna to Los Angeles where she moved

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Spencer clarified his thoughts on Friday, telling THR that he and Heidi “do support the WGA” but were “frustrated” when their name got “mixed up” with Frankel, 52.
“[She] made people think there really was a reality strike,” he explained. “I was clowning when I jokingly said, ‘I’ve been on strike. That’s why you haven’t seen me.’ No, I don’t have a TV show. That’s why you haven’t seen me. But Heidi and I have learned this so many times, the amount of pilots we’ve shot with big production companies and big producers, and how many times those pilots never get to air, once you’ve been in that game and know how hard it is to be a reality TV person on a television show, until you’ve been on the other side, you don’t get what a privilege it is.”
The WGA (Writer’s Guild of America) and SAG-AFTRA (Screen Actors Guild – American Federation of Television and Radio Artists), who kicked off their strikes in May and July, respectively, are seeking similar new contracts with the AMPTP (Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers) in regards to wages, the use of artificial intelligence and streaming residuals. In July, Frankel weighed in on the situation and claimed she hasn’t seen “a single residual check” for reruns of her past reality TV appearances.

Related: Relive the Biggest Reality TV Feuds

Ever since reality TV began, one of the biggest draws has been the drama — specifically, the fighting that breaks out while the cameras are rolling. Through the years — from Laguna Beach and The Hills to the Real Housewives and beyond, the claws come out when action is called. Although Lauren Conrad butted heads

“I’m well aware that unscripted talent aka ‘reality stars’ should have a union or simply be treated fairly and valued,” the Real Housewives of New York City alum said via TikTok video at the time. “The mentality that we were nobodies and that these streamers and networks have given us platforms and that we can capitalize on them is also moronic.” 

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Mariah Carey’s One Holiday Hit Pays her $3.3 Million a Year

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Mariah Carey did not just land a Christmas hit; she locked in a seasonal paycheck for life. Every year, All I Want for Christmas Is You is estimated to pull in somewhere between 2.5 and 3.3 million dollars in royalties, from streaming, radio, licensing, and all those store playlists that flip her on the second the Halloween decorations come down. Over three decades, that adds up to tens of millions tied to a single song, turning one holiday anthem into a textbook example of how a perfectly timed pop track can become a retirement plan in glitter.

Librarian of Congress Carla Hayden and Santa Claus present pop superstar Mariah Carey with a framed certificate honoring her induction into the 2023 Library of Congress National Recording Registry for “All I Want for Christmas is You,” December 14, 2023. Photo by Shawn Miller/Library of Congress. Note: Privacy and publicity rights for individuals depicted may apply.

What keeps it so sticky is how audiences respond to it emotionally. Fans describe the song as an instant mood-lifter: the kind of track that makes people abandon their carts in Target, sing in the dairy aisle, or scream the chorus in the car like a full-blown music video moment.

People love the mix of old-school Motown-style production, sleigh bells, and Mariah’s big, joyful vocals—it feels nostalgic without sounding dated, and romantic without being corny to most listeners.

For a lot of millennials and Gen Z, hearing that opening piano riff is the unofficial signal that the holidays have “officially started.”

Of course, the obsession is loud enough that the backlash is, too—but even the complaints prove its impact. Some listeners say they are tired of hearing it everywhere, from October onward, but that is partly because it dominates every Christmas playlist, radio rotation, and TikTok trend. Whether people are passionately belting it out or dramatically rolling their eyes, the engagement keeps the streams flowing—and the royalties stacking. Love it or hate it, All I Want for Christmas Is You has become the soundtrack to December, and Mariah collects a festive multimillion-dollar “thank you” every single year.

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How The Grinch Became The Richest Christmas Movie Ever

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The Grinch didn’t just steal Christmas—he stole the box office. The 2018 animated film The Grinch turned holiday chaos into serious cash, grossing around $540 million worldwide on a modest $75 million budget, making it the highest‑grossing Christmas movie of all time. That is more than seven times its production cost, which is the kind of holiday return every studio dreams about.

Meanwhile, the 2000 live‑action How the Grinch Stole Christmas with Jim Carrey laid the groundwork for this green empire. That version pulled in roughly $345–347 million worldwide on a $123 million budget, turning a prickly Dr. Seuss villain into a perennial box‑office player and a meme‑ready holiday icon. The nostalgia around Carrey’s performance is a big part of why audiences were ready to show up again almost two decades later.​

The Money Behind The Mayhem

The 2018 film did not just earn big—it earned smart.

It opened to more than $$67 million domestically in its first weekend and kept playing steadily through November and December, ultimately pulling in about $272 million in the U.S. and roughly $267 million internationally.

Holiday timing, family‑friendly branding, and the Illumination animation style (the same studio behind Despicable Me) helped it become a go‑to choice for parents seeking something safe, colorful, and chaos‑free for kids.

Then there is the profit. Trade estimates peg the film’s net profit in the neighborhood of nearly $185 million once theatrical revenue, home entertainment, and TV/streaming deals are baked in. That is before counting years of reruns, licensing, and holiday programming packages—every December, the Grinch gets another quiet deposit while everyone else is wrapping gifts.

Grinch vs. Everyone: Who’s Really On Top?

Here is how the Grinch stacks up against other Christmas heavyweights by worldwide box office:

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FilmYearWorldwide Gross (approx.)Notes
The Grinch (animated)2018$510–540 millionHighest‑grossing Christmas movie ever
Home Alone1990~$476 millionLongtime champ, now second place
How the Grinch Stole Christmas (live‑action)2000~$345–347 millionBuilt the modern Grinch brand
The Polar Express2004~$315 millionHoliday staple, trails both Grinch movies

Different sources list slightly different totals, but they all agree: the 2018 Grinch sits at the top of the Christmas money mountain.

Why The Grinch Keeps Printing Money

The secret sauce is that the Grinch is more than a movie—he is a business model. Every version of this character hits a different emotional lane: Jim Carrey’s 2000 Grinch is pure chaotic energy and quotable nostalgia, while the 2018 Grinch is softer, cuter, and perfectly engineered for modern families and global audiences. Together, they keep the character relevant across generations, which is exactly what studios want from an evergreen holiday IP.

On top of box office and home sales, the character feeds theme‑park attractions, holiday events, branded specials, apparel, toys, and seasonal marketing campaigns. The Grinch went from “I hate Christmas” to “I own Christmas,” quietly turning grouchiness into one of the most profitable holiday brands on the planet.

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Ariana & Cynthia Say They’re in a ‘Non‑Demi Curious, Semi‑Binary’ Relationship… WTF Does That Even Mean?

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If you’ve scrolled TikTok, X, or Theatre Kid Instagram in the last week, you’ve probably tripped over the phrase “non‑Demi curious, semi‑binary relationship” and immediately asked the only logical question: what on earth are they talking about? The term, now attached to Wicked co‑stars Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo, has gone from niche in‑joke to headline bait in record time. It sounds like a grad‑school thesis on gender studies, but it’s being used to describe two actors who may or may not just be very affectionate coworkers.

Here’s the spoiler: this isn’t a real, recognized relationship label. It’s a chaotic mash‑up of actual identity language and internet humor that landed on a fandom already obsessed with reading between the lines of every glance, grip, and giggle between these two.

What “non‑Demi curious, semi‑binary” is trying to do

At its core, the phrase is performance. It borrows real terms like “demi,” “curious,” and “binary,” then stacks them into something that sounds hyper‑specific while ultimately saying… almost nothing. It’s the situationship era dressed in queer‑coded academic cosplay. In plain English, the vibe is:

“We’re extremely close, we flirt with the idea of more, but we’re not calling it dating.”

For some fans, that ambiguity is the point. It mirrors the way a lot of modern relationships operate—emotionally intense, physically affectionate, publicly visible, but deliberately undefined. For everyone else, especially outside theatre and fandom spaces, it reads as theatre‑kid word salad.

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The internet reacts: “Explain it like I’m five”

The audience reaction has been swift and brutal in the funniest way. Timelines are full of people essentially saying, “I looked this up and not even the internet knows what it means.” One user joked that they needed “a PowerPoint, a flowchart, and a glossary” just to keep up, while another quipped, “So y’all are in a relationship that’s 100% vibes and 0% clarity—just say that.”

On the lighter side, the phrase has already mutated into a meme template. People are using “non‑Demi curious, semi‑binary” to describe everything from their toxic situationships to that one friend they cuddled with all college but “never dated.” It’s becoming shorthand for any connection that is way too complicated to explain at brunch.

Could this be a PR stunt?

Is this whole thing organic chaos, or a carefully placed PR glitter bomb? The truth is likely somewhere in the messy middle. Wicked’s promo cycle was always going to be big, but a confusing, highly meme‑able “relationship label” is the kind of accidental lightning most marketing teams can only dream of. Whether the original wording came from a joke, a satire post, or a tongue‑in‑cheek comment, the effect is the same: everyone is talking about Ariana and Cynthia.

From a media strategy standpoint, it works. A bizarre label cuts through crowded feeds faster than another polished soundbite about “sisterhood” and “creative collaboration.” It also conveniently shifts the conversation away from heavier discourse around Ariana’s personal life by giving the internet a shiny new toy: a label to clown, remix, and recontextualize. Even if no one sat in a boardroom and said, “Let’s go with semi‑binary,” the attention it’s generating is pure PR gold.

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Is this just normal theatre‑kid energy?

For anyone who grew up around performing arts programs, none of this feels that shocking. Theatre kids have a long tradition of giving their dynamics dramatic names: “stage spouse,” “art soulmate,” “rehearsal wife,” “creative twin.” Their friendships tend to be physically affectionate, emotionally intense, and described in language that sounds one step away from a fanfic title.

For the rest of the world—especially casual moviegoers who don’t speak fluent Fandom—this reads as completely unhinged. Half the internet is laughing, the other half is squinting, and both halves are still sharing the clips. That’s the sweet spot where modern celebrity lives: just confusing enough to go viral, just emotional enough to feel “real,” and just unserious enough to shrug off when the next headline hits.

So WTF does it mean?

Practically speaking, “non‑Demi curious, semi‑binary relationship” means three things:

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  • Ariana and Cynthia are extremely close and comfortable performing that closeness in public.
  • The internet is hungry for labels, even if those labels are nonsense.
  • Whether it started as a joke, a misquote, or a moment of theatre‑kid improv, it’s doing exactly what the industry runs on: keeping their names in your mouth and on your timeline.

Until someone sits down and gives a clear, sober definition (don’t hold your breath), the phrase will keep living where it was born—in memes, stan jokes, and group chats where everyone is asking the same question you are:

“Love that for them, I guess… but seriously, WTF does that even mean?”

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